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Trying to find a Modzelewski, need some help/suggestions
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Chris Smolinski
2006-04-12 11:57:37 UTC
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For several years now, I've been trying to find some information on my
great grandfather. I've made lots of progress on other parts of my
family, but he continues to be a stumbling block. Maybe someone here has
some suggestions, or access to some immigration records that might be
useful.

His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski, he went by William here in the USA.
He came over from Poland (I presume actually the Russian part) circa
1900. I have been unable to locate any records at the Ellis Island site
that might be him. Of course one possibility is that he didn't come
through Ellis Island, the other is that they completely mangled his
name. His 1930 census record shows him being born approx 1876. I was
recently able to find the 1920 census record, it took some doing, as
they listed him as  WILLIAM BOZELFSKY. I know it was him based on the
recorded street address and the family details. All I can figure is that
the census taker recorded his American first name, and then mangled
Boleslaw Modzelewski into Bozelfsky. Ugh.

I've been unable to find the 1910 census record. I'm not sure where they
were living then, I am going to guess the NYC area. His wife (Stefania
/Safona) came over in 1907 and I was easily able to find her Ellis
Island record.

Unfortunately my grandmother doesn't remember many details about him,
even his exact date of birth and death (she's 95, and he died approx
1950, so it's been a while). My grandmother thinks they may have been
from the same town in Russia, the Ellis Island record shows my great
grandmother as being born in Lomza (or is that Lornza?) and then living
in Sokoly when she left.

Any suggestions or information anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
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c***@aol.com
2006-04-12 12:47:16 UTC
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There were Modzelewski families living in Modzele, Poland. This was in the Lomza province and is south of Grajewo and east of Szczytno.

Good luck!

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From: Chris Smolinski <***@blackcatsystems.com>
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Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:57:37 -0400
Subject: Trying to find a Modzelewski, need some help/suggestions


For several years now, I've been trying to find some information on my
great grandfather. I've made lots of progress on other parts of my
family, but he continues to be a stumbling block. Maybe someone here has
some suggestions, or access to some immigration records that might be
useful.

His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski, he went by William here in the USA.
He came over from Poland (I presume actually the Russian part) circa
1900. I have been unable to locate any records at the Ellis Island site
that might be him. Of course one possibility is that he didn't come
through Ellis Island, the other is that they completely mangled his
name. His 1930 census record shows him being born approx 1876. I was
recently able to find the 1920 census record, it took some doing, as
they listed him as WILLIAM BOZELFSKY. I know it was him based on the
recorded street address and the family details. All I can figure is that
the census taker recorded his American first name, and then mangled
Boleslaw Modzelewski into Bozelfsky. Ugh.

I've been unable to find the 1910 census record. I'm not sure where they
were living then, I am going to guess the NYC area. His wife (Stefania
/Safona) came over in 1907 and I was easily able to find her Ellis
Island record.

Unfortunately my grandmother doesn't remember many details about him,
even his exact date of birth and death (she's 95, and he died approx
1950, so it's been a while). My grandmother thinks they may have been
from the same town in Russia, the Ellis Island record shows my great
grandmother as being born in Lomza (or is that Lornza?) and then living
in Sokoly when she left.

Any suggestions or information anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com
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Chris Smolinski
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unknown
2006-04-12 13:18:20 UTC
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:57:37 -0400, Chris Smolinski
Post by Chris Smolinski
His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski
Is MONDZELEWSKI (also from Russian Poland) a variant of the same
surname? Or is it a totally different surname?
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Dennis K.
Chris Smolinski
2006-04-13 23:33:30 UTC
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Post by unknown
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:57:37 -0400, Chris Smolinski
Post by Chris Smolinski
His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski
Is MONDZELEWSKI (also from Russian Poland) a variant of the same
surname? Or is it a totally different surname?
I'm not sure. The spelling I have from my grandmother is Modzelewski.
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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
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Patricia Driscoll
2006-04-15 17:47:29 UTC
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In researching my tree, I found many variations of surnames. I had to check
other facts to see if this was the person I was looking for at the time.
Census takers misspelled names many times, as did transcribers on the Ellis
Island site. Most of my ancestors left Europe through Germany and they wrote
their letters differently than we do today.

Pat
Post by Chris Smolinski
Post by unknown
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:57:37 -0400, Chris Smolinski
Post by Chris Smolinski
His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski
Is MONDZELEWSKI (also from Russian Poland) a variant of the same
surname? Or is it a totally different surname?
I'm not sure. The spelling I have from my grandmother is Modzelewski.
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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com
Kathy Ehrhardt
2006-04-18 12:46:48 UTC
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Chris,

When you found the census records, did you look at the naturalization
information? The 1920 census should indicate the year of immigration as
well as whether he was an alien or naturalized. The 1930 also gives the
same information.

If he became a citizen, you could then try to locate the naturalization
papers. My grandparents' papers gave their date and place of marriage.
From their marriage records, I found the names of their parents and the name
of the town they came from.

Hope this helps. Good luck, Kathy E
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smolinski" <***@blackcatsystems.com>
To: <GEN-SLAVIC-***@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Trying to find a Modzelewski, need some help/suggestions
Post by Chris Smolinski
For several years now, I've been trying to find some information on my
great grandfather. I've made lots of progress on other parts of my
family, but he continues to be a stumbling block. Maybe someone here has
some suggestions, or access to some immigration records that might be
useful.
His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski, he went by William here in the USA.
He came over from Poland (I presume actually the Russian part) circa
1900. I have been unable to locate any records at the Ellis Island site
that might be him. Of course one possibility is that he didn't come
through Ellis Island, the other is that they completely mangled his
name. His 1930 census record shows him being born approx 1876. I was
recently able to find the 1920 census record, it took some doing, as
they listed him as WILLIAM BOZELFSKY. I know it was him based on the
recorded street address and the family details. All I can figure is that
the census taker recorded his American first name, and then mangled
Boleslaw Modzelewski into Bozelfsky. Ugh.
I've been unable to find the 1910 census record. I'm not sure where they
were living then, I am going to guess the NYC area. His wife (Stefania
/Safona) came over in 1907 and I was easily able to find her Ellis
Island record.
Unfortunately my grandmother doesn't remember many details about him,
even his exact date of birth and death (she's 95, and he died approx
1950, so it's been a while). My grandmother thinks they may have been
from the same town in Russia, the Ellis Island record shows my great
grandmother as being born in Lomza (or is that Lornza?) and then living
in Sokoly when she left.
Any suggestions or information anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com
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Chris Smolinski
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Chris Smolinski
2006-04-19 14:50:31 UTC
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Yes, I have the year of immigration as 1900, and he was still not a
citizen as of 1930. I've been unable to find any entry at Ellis Island
that is likely to be him, even under variations of his name. It's always
possible he arrived though another port. I did find his wife's Ellis
Island record some time ago. She came over in 1907. My grandmother was
born in 1910, so it is likely they were married between 1907 and 1910.

I did just obtain his birth and death dates from the cemetery where he
is buried and the funeral home that handled the funeral, so that's
something new. I also have his father's name and his mother's first name
now as well.

The search goes on for the 1910 census record...
Post by Kathy Ehrhardt
Chris,
When you found the census records, did you look at the naturalization
information? The 1920 census should indicate the year of immigration as
well as whether he was an alien or naturalized. The 1930 also gives the
same information.
If he became a citizen, you could then try to locate the naturalization
papers. My grandparents' papers gave their date and place of marriage.
From their marriage records, I found the names of their parents and the name
of the town they came from.
Hope this helps. Good luck, Kathy E
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Trying to find a Modzelewski, need some help/suggestions
Post by Chris Smolinski
For several years now, I've been trying to find some information on my
great grandfather. I've made lots of progress on other parts of my
family, but he continues to be a stumbling block. Maybe someone here has
some suggestions, or access to some immigration records that might be
useful.
His name was Boleslaw Modzelewski, he went by William here in the USA.
He came over from Poland (I presume actually the Russian part) circa
1900. I have been unable to locate any records at the Ellis Island site
that might be him. Of course one possibility is that he didn't come
through Ellis Island, the other is that they completely mangled his
name. His 1930 census record shows him being born approx 1876. I was
recently able to find the 1920 census record, it took some doing, as
they listed him as WILLIAM BOZELFSKY. I know it was him based on the
recorded street address and the family details. All I can figure is that
the census taker recorded his American first name, and then mangled
Boleslaw Modzelewski into Bozelfsky. Ugh.
I've been unable to find the 1910 census record. I'm not sure where they
were living then, I am going to guess the NYC area. His wife (Stefania
/Safona) came over in 1907 and I was easily able to find her Ellis
Island record.
Unfortunately my grandmother doesn't remember many details about him,
even his exact date of birth and death (she's 95, and he died approx
1950, so it's been a while). My grandmother thinks they may have been
from the same town in Russia, the Ellis Island record shows my great
grandmother as being born in Lomza (or is that Lornza?) and then living
in Sokoly when she left.
Any suggestions or information anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
--
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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com
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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
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